There has been a lot of talk about these nails being used for loosing nails etc; I have at least 18,000 of them to build a 4,200 square foot hardwood house; my wood worker tried the staples and the wood ripped, they told me to get these nails, i did and i have to say they work great; he has small bites that stick to the black bottom and don't move; I have a lot of experience with these nails. I hope this helps anyone thinking about buying nails.
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