I wear 12th point. 95% of the time, maybe more if I wear size 4 shoes that fit perfectly. Walmart says the size is right so I ordered 12. Too tight so I order the 13th, too tight and then I gave up. I didn't feel much of a difference between the two pairs so I doubt 14 would fit. There was a difference, but it was negligible. Good luck with your boys but to me they are hey dudes.
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