With leather you really have to reckon with breaking in. It's only been a few weeks and now that they've broken in I love them. There isn't much support for the vault, but they are mocked. You can't expect sneakers from the facility. Fit and finish are nice. I can polish them for church or just wipe them down for everyday use. Like all real leathers they should be treated occasionally with a good saddle soap or mink oil or a general leather treatment to keep them long lasting.