I have to say I really like these shoes. I bought another pair of dockers which I had to return due to the lack of spacers behind the Achilles which doesn't make sense. However, they are very comfortable and appear to be well built. I keep changing my shoes every 6 months because I wear them every day in an office building and walk 20 flights of stairs and down (great exercise). Big. These areas are perfect. Not to mention they are wide enough to easily fit my hobbit's feet.