When I first took them out of the box I thought the material was thinner than expected but apparently the 'glue' or 'caliper' to which I'm not used to it so these are slightly different. If you've worn them for 40+ years, you really get to know the product inside and out. The crease resistance is a bit lower but in the end they are a lot cheaper than the money I usually give for them and still a good quality. Looks great and holds up to the abuse of mechanical lubrication week after week. The fit is perfect. The Red Kap has a cut that works well for either fat or thin in the same shirt. Half of it is a nice unified look. No male breasts or beer intestines can be seen. Just a neat look.
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