I bought these joysticks for Call of Duty Black Ops 4/RDR2 and they work great for both games. I wouldn't recommend the high stick (right stick) for run-and-gun players. This will slow down your aiming a bit and confuse you. I DON'T LIKE: 1. My right stick keeps flying off. No matter how much pressure I put on him, he always comes out at the most inopportune moment. Which is really terrible because initially I was very impressed with this product.2. I have all kinds of white dust around the base of my wands. It's some kind of sediment that's detached from the sticks. A fresh black controller makes it stand out and looks very ugly. Many Thanks.