While the length and overall fit of these pants are spot on, my son points out that the "double knee" seam falls right on his knee, which is when he kneels in the church (he is an altar boy) is very uncomfortable. Also note that the "double knee" reinforcement is on the OUTSIDE of the pants and not inside the pants like many other reinforced pants. It's a bit painful to see, at least for our purposes (he needs dress pants, and those pants look like cargo pants on the front).
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