These were my 3rd attempt at finding some comfortable chinos. I tried the Essentials and the Docks, they were both WAY too tight in the crotch and butt. These fit perfectly! I'm not a fan of the stretch waist since I always have a belt on, but I can get over that. My only complaint is that they are about 1" longer than any other pants I wear. I am a 32" inseam and these measure just under 32", but when worn, they are too long. I'm keeping them as the crotch fit is what matters to me!
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