When I first bought these markers my main concern was that some markers might not work or be incompatible with alcohol markers. . But all the pens worked great and worked beautifully with the Copics. They are quite dark and do not fade with an eraser. On the other hand, some disadvantages of these pens are that they are not as waterproof as they claim, lift off and bleed on contact with a wet brush. It's not such a big deal for me as I wasn't planning on using them for watercolors, but I know other people are looking for exactly that with pencils. Overall I am very happy with these pens and their quality.
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