The socks are great. You don't sleep all day. I am a 9.5 man. 5 feet 08 inches tall. They are pulled up just below the knee joint. Not sagging, wash and dry (hot) without shrinkage. They keep my feet warm and dry in the snow. I wear them with full grain leather Danner half leather boots with 800 mg insulation (15 year old boot with new 3X sole). I bought other wool socks from ski and tour operators. They are by far the best for comfort, washability, warmth, moisture wicking and alertness. no sag. definitely worth the price.
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