Leather really needs to be broken in. These shoes were so well made and the leather was so well finished that the break in time was only a few weeks and that's what they break, I love them. There isn't much support for the vault, but they are mocked. You can't expect sneakers from the facility. Fit and finish are nice. I can polish them for church or just wipe them down for everyday use. Like all real leathers they should be treated occasionally with a good saddle soap or mink oil or a general leather treatment to keep them long lasting.