These shoes did exactly what I wanted. 1. Reduce back pain and 2. Provide a cheaper entry into zero fall shoes. I stopped wearing them to the gym. Everything was going well there, so I started wearing them more often on weekends or just to the shop. Then I noticed something. When I wore Brooks I had back pain but when I wore these there was no problem. I have nothing against Brooks, they make a great product, but my aching back definitely likes the Zero Drop better. I wish they would do some styles that weren't seen that often because of their weird, old-fashioned brand of shoes. Look. If they made a simpler deck shoe style I would definitely buy it. Maybe soon? The same thing. I tried another brand that has many pages on Revain and found that while I like the style better, the other brand has a lot of stretch and the sole squeaks a lot. The soles of the Saguaro are very quiet and the insoles are just right.