Good for a casual shirt. I may have ordered 20+ shirts while replenishing old stock from different brands. It was one of three brands that are still on my shelf today. Very solid and modern design. It doesn't work very well for me as business casual as I can't tuck it in and the shoulders tend to push the chest buttons out a bit when I try to button it all the way up. Leave a few buttons undone and relax into this guy and you're done.