I've been taking both products (plus whey protein shake, multivitamin, fish oil, potassium tablet) every day for 2 months now and in 2 months I've gained 15 pounds. It took about 2-3 weeks to see results but you have to build muscle, testosterone and energy, it took work. I am 6ft 4 inches and currently 220lbs and plan to be 240lbs by December 1st.
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