If you are a bigger than usual man.your bits I mean.get a pair of these to try and you will love them too. The workmanship on the sewing is superior. The fabric is sturdy. They arrived very quickly too. The size I bought was medium, I am a size 31 waist and they fit great. The pouch holds everything securely and out front where it counts. The way they look in jeans and gym shorts is impressive. The guys in the locker room even noticed.lol Try these they are great!