We returned these. My son wore them to dinner - he was carried from home to the car, back and forth from the restaurant and then back to the house (so he never walked on them). He wore socks. They still managed to rub the front of his knuckles, staining them bright red. I suspect if he had actually walked in it his ankles would have been ripped off. My son has very thick feet from top to bottom (not wide side to side). These are not the right shoes for him. I was hoping so because I managed to at least get his feet in the shoes, which I usually can't. Oh. The search continues.
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