These discs have the valve stem too close to the brakes and I couldn't use them on my Tesla Model S. I will hire a local helium arc fabricator to weld the current valve holes and then drill new holes. If you have a Model S, don't buy these wheels, and I suspect if your car can't use 17-inch wheels or smaller, you'll have the same problem. I'm not happy that the online manual for AMAZON said these wheels would fit. Also note that the tires on these rims must be "reverse mounted" according to my installer.
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