I ordered size 8.5 for my dad but got size 14! Also, the shoes weren't in the shoe box, just thrown in the packing box. Requested an exchange and got a size 14 again! I called and the rep said I ordered a size 14. I said my page says 8.5W so I returned it. Decided to try again and made it! It goes right into the cart but just before I hit the checkout button I noticed it said size 14! So check again, there is a big mistake!