What else can you say? I've used many different brands of welding electrodes from cheap to crappy to explain to your boss that this stuff can't be $128 for a ten pound box. I am building a steel fence about 2 acres, I want it to be as cheap as possible as I will be burning a lot of bars. I use 7018 because I don't want to spend a lot of time cleaning the seams before welding. I've used about 10 pounds so far, it burns well. Like most 7018's the new rod starts up easily but re-starting in the middle of the rod is a little tricky. I made gates for a pigsty and scattered them all over the place to check the welds, they seem to be holding up well. It breaks if you try to move the part too soon while the weld is still hot (about 10 seconds). As I said, I plan on burning a lot of this stuff over the next few months, I'll update any issues.