Better than expected for a great price. I still can’t believe it. Pay attention to sizing. I’m 5’11”/150lbs/31in waist/32in inseam. I chose size small and that was correct. Their sizing chart is correct. This is not a long short or a mid thigh short. They ride high on the thigh but that’s the way they are cut and the way they are supposed to be. Drawstring for the waist is on the outside of the waistband. I like this but some will not. Inside liner is comfortable and not too snug or too loose. That may change after 25 washes, I’m not sure. They ventilate well and fabric is lightweight. I bought the black ones and plan to buy more at this price.