To be honest we have been fans of Kamik gear for many years. These winter pants were ripped and torn in the first month of light wear. Huge holes in winter pants after my kid wore them outside several times. I can't believe they don't last all winter. We will look for another brand of winter pants. The zipper broke before we put the winter pants on for the first time. Look for another brand of winter pants that will last. Very disappointed.
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