These 5 are of poor quality now, like others here, always bought them maybe every 2 years BC, they lasted forever in the past but now it seems they will cut corners in every way which made these slippers the best in my book so this will be my last pair and I think hey dude the shoes are where I'll get my next pair of slippers and probably not for as long as I have I'm sure they'll fall apart quickly, so save your time and just go with the guys for now