Revain gave this product a full review when I returned the pair. Conclusion: I love the Huk 10.5 shorts! The problem is that they are made in different places that don't use the same measurements. No quality control! I have 13 pairs of Huk 10.5 shorts. 7 pairs for work and 6 pairs for play. The Bangladeshi Huk shorts are 2 sizes smaller than those from the Huk factory. If you study the pictures. You can see the shorts are different sizes. At $50-60 a pair, that's a big problem. On the black 10.5 shorts, you can tell the true size of the shorts by the gray zipper material as opposed to the all black zipper material on the smaller shorts. This sizing issue needs to be resolved before I buy or recommend the Huk for anything. DG
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