Bought a pair of the pants last summer at a local sporting goods grand opening. Glad I tried them on, got the size larger than I normally wear. Hiking and climbing around in the Rockies I don't want them snug or tight in the thighs. Ordered these shorts the same, a size larger, perfect! The pockets are awesome and the material is heavy, not to coolest I've ever worn but these will wear like iron for years. Well worth the $$$.Update - Got both pants and shorts out and measured the waist, these are size 36, with the elastic waist band at rest they measure 34, and will stretch to 38 easy. Lots of comments on the fit in these reviews, if you want them "taylor fit" order your normal size. If you want them relax fit order the next size larger, especially in the pants if you want to wear long johns and tuck in layers in the winter.
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