I have an old Deutscher Meister table. These substitutes are cheap plastic. They're great for kids, but certainly not for old-style tournament men. The screw holes are too small for the bars, the included hardware fits smaller holes, but there's a lot of wobble, the sole of the foot is smooth and wide rather than narrow with contours and grooves, and there's no counterweight due to the blend. I had to drill bolt holes in the men and buy #8-32 x 1 1/4 bolts, #6 washers, and #8 nuts to hold these guys in place on the table. Look at the pictures to see the differences between the original waffle types, the patented generation men and these plastic types.
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