I have been trying for several years to find a new brief to replace the OlGAS I use to wear. They changed theirs from the great design I loved. I HATED ALL I TRIED until THIS one. I'm so glad I bought them and will be buying more of these soon. The bamboo is soft yet substantial. The stretch is perfect. They DO NOT RIDE UP. I think those who complained didn't buy the right size because these briefs are terrific. Someone else said they were flimsy. I say that is not at all accurate. They are SOFT.but not at all flimsy. I have not yet laundered, but I believe if one uses common sense and washes them in cold water, med dryer or perhaps dry flat on towel, they will last beautifully. I recently got bamboo sheets and have laundered them for a year. and put them in the dryer and they are still lovely. SO, if you like me were searching for a comfortable good fit in a brief, TRY THISE. I think you'll like them too. I'm delighted with them.
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