i ordered them for my grandson of course the choice of size came from his mother (my daughter). I was surprised to hear that they fit perfectly without any adjustments. My grandson is 10 years old, a little younger than his classmates (but much smarter.βΊ) They also have reinforced knees. I will order more. The ONLY downside seems to be a bit stiff but I'm sure this won't be an issue after a few washes.
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