They were from Revain stock - they were described as "very good" - the 6 inch section was glued to the surface with some sort of epoxy - my sergeant couldn't do that. The other problem if you're buying it brand new in factory packaging is that for the retail price you're getting an industry name and a PLASTIC BELT - not leather! My leather belts lasted for years before they got too small<G> - they won't last that long.