They are good but the problem with the size of the gloves is I would like them wider but no longer than the length of the finger. I have broad, thick bones, a wider finger and palm with a shorter fingertip length than gloves that often lengthen as 4xl goes up. The glove was tight on the sides and had extra room, while the length of the finger extended past my fingertips, a good inch beyond what should be right. -