fits - am 5'10, 165-170lbs, wear 30w, 32L or 31w, 32L - average after wash is good, shrinkage is minimal, length just below ankle - hate shin underhealing when walking comfort - does not pucker at night while sleeping, plenty of waist freedom with drawstring, good groin freedom for free flow of intimate qualities - no protruding threads, no chafing at seams Will order another set for me and my wife wants a set I will size small for her order
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