These pillow inserts came in a useless vinyl bag with a plastic zipper and then each came in another additional plastic sleeve. Too much for the plastic and vinyl packaging that most if not all end users have to throw away. Even after they swelled up after a few days as recommended in the instructions, they didn't seem very swollen. Uses 18" for a 16" square pillowcase as recommended in the size charts. The corners were very sharp, but the sides and bottom were very concave, with a pronounced indentation in the middle of each latitudinal and longitudinal axis. I will be filling with hand cut foam from an old pillow.
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