I ordered my daughter's shoes a size up and they work. I could probably go a half size bigger. I need a dance teacher to check this out. I removed the ribbon immediately as my baby doesn't know how to tie bows. The rubber works perfectly. I ordered the M width for my other daughter and I don't see much of a difference with the W width. If your child has wide feet, you can choose shoes that are 1.5 sizes larger than street shoes.
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