I would not recommend these thermal packs at all. I bought these to keep my lizard warm on a 9 hour car ride. I tested a day before and I'm so glad I did. They almost didn't heat up, and it was clearly not warm enough for winter driving. We had to buy hand warmers and use them instead. Unfortunately it was a waste of money if you are transporting a lizard just use hand warmers or a heating pad.
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