The original review I left was for a different coil, it was my fault. These bobbins are inconvenient, when I change the bobbin for a new one for the first time, the seams go crooked and the bobbin threads are immediately visible from above, which is very annoying. With other embroiderers I've started removing LOTS of bobbin thread before putting it in the machine, this has reduced the amount of bobbin thread showing through from the top. They fit my brother Duetta 4500D but that's all I can say about them, they are probably wound too tight and have loose thread tension, honestly I'm not sure why they're difficult at first but they are it. thread before use,
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