My dad had I already have a pair of these and wanted them back. They are made a little worse than before and are smaller. It's usually 13.5 D/E or medium wide and when we got the 14M he couldn't put it on without help so we returned it and ordered a 143E here. They had enough room for him to put his foot in if it was in the morning and they were starting to relax, but if he was wearing socks that weren't super thin, or if his legs were swollen later in the afternoon, he just barely gets them on.