We made two attempts but ended up returning both. For the record, 12.5 is what I ended up getting at a local dance shop for triple the price, but after 2 returns and still not sure what size she needed I had to go to a physical location. The shoe itself seems reasonably well made, but the sizing remains a mystery. Even in a shop without my daughter, it was intimidating. My child wears a size 11 street shoe and a size 12.5 jazz shoe. She only has 1/4-1/2" in the toe for movement and growth.
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