ordered 3 sizes down and the waist was a little large but the hips were a little tight and the fit is not as high at the waist as i would like so there is a camel toe effect After washing on cold cycle and drying low, the pants have shrunk a bit and are now very narrow in the hips and seat, but still have a slit in the back. I can't even buckle them up to close the gap because the seat and hips are so tight they tighten the crotch even more. Too bad because the pants are very cute but unless you have very narrow hips to the waist this is a crazy size.