4. couple of vans i bought in 3 months. I always thought they were skinny shoes but after trying them on in the store I saw they look so good on my feet. I like this kind of middle shoes. i have everything white dark blue. and chrome (all gray). I have 9.5 in women so I bought 8 in men. they fit so well and are very comfortable. Lots of colors to choose from.ππΌππΌπ Added ginger glaze which I like.