don't buy them because you think they are what you used to buy from 5.11. They changed the way they are made and the quality sucks! I've bought many packs over the years and they've been amazing, now they're terrible! Don't waste money on them. I would love to return them but I washed them as soon as they arrived and now I'm stuck with 6 shirts that fit poorly and the quality just isn't there.
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