UPDATE September 18, 2021: DO NOT do what I did in the instructions below and try attaching it to an RTIC Generation II 30oz jar as I did. A few days ago I noticed a single crack on the other end, opposite the butt portion of the handle. The pulling force was obviously too much for the material it's made of and after a few days it ripped completely. Now I'm penless. I looked and looked and looked. RTIC does one, but it's one of those skinny ones that feels like picking it up on something the diameter of a straw. PS I don't think the fact that my glass was specially colored made any noticeable difference to the wider scope.------------------------------------- - ---------------------------------- I got this pen for the second of two 30 ounce RTICs -Bought mugs that I have. It doesn't technically match the (newer? by) 30oz RTIC, but you can get it working with some effort. In short, this is the pen to get! If you're not using an RTIC, it should work right out of the box (at least on the Yeti, Ozark Trail, and Beast, since that's what this stylus is advertised for). But I bought a custom painted powder coated RTIC and I'm not sure if it's an older or newer RTIC, either or both of which have different circumferences (above larger than the other brands mentioned above). The problem with other pens (at least the other two I bought) is that one of the pens has the part of the handle (the part you grip) too small so it looks like you are gripping the handle or reuse a drinking straw to lift a glass (some people might think that's normal, but I don't like it). It's easy to understand what I'm talking about by simply comparing the size of this pin (i.e. the part you hold on to) to the size of other pins that are smaller. You might prefer this if you have very small hands but I definitely don't! The one I bought a few years ago is almost identical to this one. The old ones work fine, but the ones that are no longer sold now. It's like the Thermal decided to save pennies so they decided to cut off the bottom of the grip so now when you try to use it you don't have anything for your pinky to hold on to be able. And it's really annoying just trying to raise your glass with your thumb and three middle fingers. Otherwise I would have opted for the thermal grip. Anyway, when I got this grip I knew I had to get it working somehow, although at first glance it didn't seem like it would work on my new, painted RTIC. And not only do I find the RTIC cups to be wider at the top and thinner at the bottom, but mine has the added thickness of being powder coated with thick enamel paint which added an extra amount around the perimeter. So when I tried to attach this handle, it barely slid up. So I put the jar in the freezer for a while to get it as cold (and compressed) as possible. I then place the handle in a pot of not quite boiling water so it gets as hot (stretched and pliable) as possible. I then wiped the glass down on all sides with Dawn dish soap to make it as smooth as possible. Then I washed it off my hand. Then I put on a leather work glove on my left hand and a disposable plastic glove on my right hand. Then I poured about a teaspoon of Dawn onto a disposable plastic glove and rubbed it all over the inside circumference of the handle. Then I took the handle out of the hot water (by grabbing it by the handle, which was OUT of the water the whole time, with the rounded part IN the water, and holding it in the water with a long, sideways serving fork of the frying pan). After lubricating this, I removed the plastic glove (to prevent it from getting slippery as well). Then I held onto the handle's grip and slid it as far over the toggle switch as I could. Then I inverted the glass and placed it on a towel at the bottom of the sink. Then, using a flat, wide bladed screwdriver, I covered the blade of the screwdriver with a wet towel and (being VERY careful not to let the screwdriver slip out from under the towel and scratch my new glass) I pressed the screwdriver against the bottom of the handle and gently tap the top of the screwdriver to allow the handle to slide further up toward the glass. It's much better if someone help you with this and hold the glass so it doesn't slip off and quickly flip the toggle switch 180 degrees so you can hit the hammer on the top of the screwdriver to slightly lift it from the opposite side. Then keep doing this until she can't climb anymore. All of this needs to be planned first and then done as quickly as possible before the glass gets hot or the handle gets cold. With the combination of a heated grip, a frozen glass, and an oiled inside of the mug and grip, I was able to get the grip high enough to operate RTIK. However, it's not as close to the top as my old thermal grip with my old RTIC glass. It's still workable though, and since my new RTIC is thinner at the bottom, it fits better in my car's cup holder than the old RTIC anyway. However, because this new grip rises just over half the height of the new RTIC, the end of the new grip still hangs over the car's cup holder. So if you have two drinks in it, the handle should be facing you, which can make it difficult to grab (at least in my car). Okay, I hope this all makes sense. In short, it's a pen. do you want. Don't waste time and money with pens that are too thin to hold comfortably or not long enough for your fingers to grip.
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