I like big cupcakes and make personal cakes for people so I was glad to get them - but they lack the support and when placed on a baking sheet they become closed large, to go where I want to go both had to be placed (because they each needed their own sheet to properly support the content). Otherwise they work well and do their job, the silicone makes it easier to take out pies without destroying them like metal pans do. You just need a smaller non-silicone tray for the bottom.
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