I've been buying Skecher Rayland Style business casual shoes for years but settled on these as they are aesthetically similar and were $20 at the time of purchase were cheaper. I immediately regretted it because everything that made the Rayland a great shoe was the complete opposite. The leather on the side of the heel stops much lower and causes the leather to dig heavily into the foot as you walk. They were also much more snug on the balls of my feet and caused a slight numbness in the forefoot when I sat for long periods of time. I will definitely be returning these. The worst. skechers Is always.