I've worn them on duty for about 5 months and these are my thoughts. TL; DR I liked her. If you use them for airsoft or a little less stress they are fine they will fade over time but as of this writing they are still black although what is poured into my boots is different compared to the rest has shades. They stain although not in the way you think, whether it's the experience of washing blood and suspicious mucus or whatever you have, they clean well and hand sanitizer is my only drops. NEED MORE BELT LOOP! As I said, I wore them on duty, I keep my leather belt and all my gear. None of the belt loops failed, but I definitely needed more to keep the base belt closed so I could attach my duty belt. More precisely, about 4 hours and 7 hours. Knee pads are life savers and pants are meant to show or cover them which is great as I need to keep them covered. For the guys who are familiar with the issues from the army issue, I've ripped out my crotch for the last week or so, and for a year the thigh where it's not reinforced. In general I like them, they are not Crye G3 but so is the price.
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