I've been wearing Timberlain Pro for a few years as an elevator mechanic. They are holding up quite well, the last pair lasted over a year. Thought I'd try these backwoods. They look and are sturdy, but I had to send them back and order half a size smaller. I've been wearing them for a few days and I think I could even go down half a size. The sock is ridiculously large and bulky. Uncomfortable the first day or two but today they feel better it's just that they are very loose as my feet feel like they are still floating. I feel like going down a size maybe too small but I'd like to try, I'll have to see what the return policy is as I've worn it.