These shirts run a few sizes too small. Normally I would wear a maximum neckline of 19 and sleeves of 33. I thought I would be wiser and order a 3XL with a 34/35 sleeve and make it slightly smaller if needed, but when I put it on I saw that the Sleeves are too short and raise my wrist higher when I reach out. I sent it back the same day and ordered a 4XL with longer sleeves 36/37 and received it today. It's the right size for me, actually not, I want to shrink it in a hot dryer. The material is good, not flimsy, the color is definitely bordeaux. The collar is listed as a 20 but seems to fit me with a tie when I need it.
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