I use 4-inch cable ties from Lowe's and Home Depot regularly, but they can be a bit pricey. These ties are much cheaper, but they are very fragile and flimsy. work with us because they don't attract attention/stand up on their own. The zip ties almost hang down, requiring two hands and a little more dexterity to wrap around the wires. The zip tie is so flimsy and the teeth are so small I'm afraid they'll break or slip off. Maybe they have a purpose and I just don't see it.
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