I have these maroons and love them - they are very long (below the ankle at my inseam 32.5 inches), really high waisted (pulls the muffin top down )! ), and the fabric is thick enough to keep you warm in fall/winter, but not so thick that it's bulky. I really liked them so I bought a second pair in black. The inseam is shorter (at least 2 inches difference) and the waist is approximately 2 inches lower than the maroon pair. They don't show through but they are definitely a different fabric and too thin for me. Both pairs even have well-stitched seams, although the black pair has some legroom on one side (not as tight as the other). Both pairs have these awesome side pockets which I now think is a necessity and not just nice to have! I'll give the maroon pair a 5+ and the black pair a 4-. I will be ordering another pair in a different color just to see how it goes.
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