I have high hopes for them, but maybe I'll come back. I'm not trying them on right now (it's August) but at first glance they seem soft, comfy and kinda huggable (and that's what thermals need). The waist of the pants is terribly bad (a thin piece of elastic is sewn into the material); less firm than even men's briefs and inferior to what you'll find on regular thermal underwear. Nothing on the label indicates they are "fleece lined". My tag says "Overheat Hyper-dri" and it's winter training gear (I have no intention of training in it). For this reason I have given 3 stars for the time being. If I find they keep me warm (or not) in winter I will update my review accordingly. World. UPDATE: I have worn them twice and am very impressed with the comfort. Super comfortable and much more forgiving and stretchy than typical thermal pants. I have a feeling the inside is different, but as at least one other reviewer mentioned, they feel weird (cold?) when you first put them on (because they're supposed to keep you from overheating?). I was pretty comfortable in 50/20 mph winds wearing khakis and a shirt. They help as a layer in colder temperatures with typical winter clothing. 4 stars (would give 5 if the belt was strong and warmer). World.
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