They were really great shoes. I bought these for my kid who really liked them but said he would only wear them on camping trips. Since he doesn't actually walk much I sent them back instead of keeping them in the closet until they were too small for him. But I loved them for the look, the fit, the comfort. Apparently they're just not cool enough for his age to wear to school(?). I highly recommend it but a pity the price has skyrocketed. We had to sell ours again as they are now double the price! :O)