These gamepads would be perfect if but for their excessive cost. different benefits works with PS3 in addition to PS4 (that's news!). In addition, connecting over BT without the use of shamanism requires a little sweat in theory, but it is actually feasible. Cons: I've purchased a DualShock 4 v2 twice, and there are currently three of them in use. The right stick on both of them occasionally malfunctions (sticks in the "up" position). Having said that, the other gamepad is really comfortable. We'll see how persistent the new one is.